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It's “That Guy… Who Was in That Thing” meets "WTF" but with people even less well known! Sure it's fun to interview the crazy famous and ask them about the difficult years, but that's been done. Memories are plastic - we're getting the real dirt from people still crawling through it. Laura Scruggs is the playwright and Jake Scruggs is the technical guy who listens to a lot of “This American Life” and thinks that qualifies him to interview people.

May 12, 2014

00:02:08 William Oliver Watkins introduces himself and his film company: Brick Apple Pictures (

00:02:47 Is he “Bill” or "Payday" to his longtime friends?

00:08:00 Prince for a day, having someone brush your teeth, and other perks of being a young actor on the set of a national commercial  

00:14:30 The college years of Nilsa and William at Webster University

00:18:10 Some hard won truths about getting cast in film and or television

00:28:34 The quote was from lots of people but probably Coleman Cox first:

00:30:59 The soggy dollar theory of acting

00:36:55 Being the guy who explains how F-ed up patients are to “Nurse Jackie” on Showtime

00:45:12 And some days they call and ask you to play Jackie Robinson

00:48:46 Writing and directing a short film: “Attempted Burglary”

01:07:34 The Bryn update

01:11:56 Nilsa’s struggles with a difficult scene partner


01:18:55 Jake talks about his new podcast: The Software Apprenticeship Podcast: