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It's “That Guy… Who Was in That Thing” meets "WTF" but with people even less well known! Sure it's fun to interview the crazy famous and ask them about the difficult years, but that's been done. Memories are plastic - we're getting the real dirt from people still crawling through it. Laura Scruggs is the playwright and Jake Scruggs is the technical guy who listens to a lot of “This American Life” and thinks that qualifies him to interview people.

Nov 3, 2014

01:43 - We welcome our guest, Jerrod Bogard, Bryn's writing partner:,, and

04:06 - Bryn update: Rehearsing  the play "Lisa and Her Things” and trying to get “off book” (memorize his lines).  See it Nov. 29th & 30th, Dec. 1st and 4th at "The Pit" and then will be resurrected over time.

08:25 - Bryn is driving Nilsa crazy with the move and they “role play” it out.

11:20 - Nilsa update.  She is writing steadily every day, working on her solo show, updating market materials, sent pictures to agents and they really liked them, which means more auditions and bookings!  Nilsa has two readings of her solo show!

14:20 - Laura has put her one woman show "Punk Grandpa" up on youtube. Elgin Fringe has asked her to perform it in Elgin again, too.

17:13 - Let the interview of our guest, Jerrod Bogard, begin!  What is he doing with Bryn?

18:30 - Jerrod  first met Nilsa when directed his play "Hugging the Shoulder" in 2007.  This was the first time someone he didn't know asked him to work together.

24:24 - "Hugging the Shoulder" is now in print! Jerrod has also been published by Samuel French, Baker's Plays, Smith and Krause, Indie Theatre Now and The New York Theatre Experience.

24:56 Jerrod’s play: “Jack and the Soy Beanstalk”

29:50 - Jerrod loves to hear about how hard it was for people who are famous now before they made it 

32:42 - Nilsa talks about how she and Jerrod met and how that was a difficult time in her life.  Her marriage was falling apart and the play that was produced was not what had been envisioned.

38:40 - How Jerrod and Bryn met

43:08 - Bryn and Jerrod have both always wanted to be in a writers' room.

Jerrod was wondering if that would never happen, like his dreams of being a fighter pilot and president.

47:56 - The Channel 101 concept - important to have a goal, get it out there and see if anyone likes it. Like "Laser Fart.”

53:20 - Jerrod is working on Playhouse Creatures' new play series

59:50 - Jerrod's experiences with The New York Fringe Festival

1:09:45 - Jerrod has been reading Augusto Boal - there are many arts within each art form

1:12:44 - Bryn comments on the movie "Nightcrawler," a film that is angry at what the media does, how it defines what is newsworthy.  It didn't love its characters or give you someone to get behind.

1:18:18 - Jerrod is working on an experimental, guerrilla street theater piece that will happen on train platforms.

1:21:26 - See "Mike Tyson Mysteries" on Adult Swim. Read the Grantland article sorta making fun of it.

Podcast notes by Laura and Jake Scruggs


Our outro music, "Everything's Coming Up Roses,” is performed by Klea Blackhurst and written by Jule Styne and Stephen Sondheim