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It's “That Guy… Who Was in That Thing” meets "WTF" but with people even less well known! Sure it's fun to interview the crazy famous and ask them about the difficult years, but that's been done. Memories are plastic - we're getting the real dirt from people still crawling through it. Laura Scruggs is the playwright and Jake Scruggs is the technical guy who listens to a lot of “This American Life” and thinks that qualifies him to interview people.

May 16, 2016

01:16 - Why Barbara wanted to be a puppeteer when she was little

14:34 - How Barbara wrote the children's play "The Nerdy Girl and the Intergalactic Dog"

18:22 - Barbara likes to write about what people don't say and what they hide as manifested in "180 Degree Rule"

20:59 - Barbara's play "Warped"

22:38 - Barbara's play "Echo"

27:57 - Miscommunication is a theme of Barbara's writing

29:06 - Barbara's writing process

31:06 - Who are The Babes with Blades and how did Barbara get involved with them?

37:00 - How did Barbara start working with the late MEH Lewis?

41:16-24 - GarageBand, which we use for recording, inserted some weird static/distortion here. A bug report has been filed and we apologize for the disruption.

43:37 - What is Barbara's favorite play or favorite plays that she's written?

46:00 - What is it like to have Barbara's wife act in the plays she's written?

48:18 - Barbara's advice for aspiring writers

50:39 - Promotions: See "180 Degree Rule", "Girl Found" will be produced by 20% Theatre - 20 plays by 20 women and Dana Lynn Formby's "American Beauty Shop" at Chicago Dramatists

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Intro Music: "Are You Famous, Yet?" - Laura Scruggs. Outro Music: "The Devil Is In The Beats" - The Chemical Brothers