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It's “That Guy… Who Was in That Thing” meets "WTF" but with people even less well known! Sure it's fun to interview the crazy famous and ask them about the difficult years, but that's been done. Memories are plastic - we're getting the real dirt from people still crawling through it. Laura Scruggs is the playwright and Jake Scruggs is the technical guy who listens to a lot of “This American Life” and thinks that qualifies him to interview people.

Jun 1, 2015

Guest: Playwright, Journalist, Activist Aurin Squire

Twitter: @aurinsquire; Blog:


0:02:15 Check out Aurin's blog entry "Bukowski's Legacy" and the video "The Last Reading of Charles Bukowski"

0:06:30 Aurin leads us in a spirited discussion of the state of the film industry

0:12:45 Podcast listeners- see "Black Dynamite" ( Which was developed at Ars Nova.

0:17:03 Aurin originally wanted to be a journalist, not an artist, but wound-up on a wild journey in the film industry. He drops some serious knowledge on us about how Hollywood works. 

0:35:15 Aurin approaches his art by seeing through the eyes of those that upset him. His play "Obamaology" ( is based on his experiences of getting stopped by the police while campaigning for Obama in East Cleveland. And he talks about the perils of making someone "The One".

0:45:37 Mr. Squire chooses to explore politics of today, through a modern lens, seasoned with magical elements of the past. Such an example is his play "Running on Fire" (

0:52:30 Aurin will have graduated from Julliard as of the posting of this podcast. He is figuring out how to effectively navigate the world of taking meetings and facing the realities of what grad school can actually give you.

1:02:00 In addition to his Talking Points Memo article on systemic abuses of power both in police forces ( ) and in an upcoming article about rape in Alcoholics Anonymous. He has another play a "Family Manual For Kwanzaa". At National Black Theatre, he has a play called "Zoo House". 

1:06:53 Also check out his Talking Points Memo Article about being a black cop in Ferguson (


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Intro Music: "Are You Famous, Yet?"

Written and Performed by Laura Scruggs

Outro Music: The Devil Is In The Beats


Performed By: The Chemical Brothers

almost nine years ago

where is episode 80?

almost nine years ago

where is episode 80?